tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post2850291471941962117..comments2024-03-28T05:47:44.752-05:00Comments on RIFLES AT DAWN: Who's Statue-Worthy?Tim Morrisseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00457723301178870851noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-15139467388000707542012-07-27T11:36:04.023-05:002012-07-27T11:36:04.023-05:00What bothers me about the Penn St. aftermath is th...What bothers me about the Penn St. aftermath is that these institutes of higher learning are all missing a "teachable moment." It's a lesson about institutions, and in my mind, it goes like this.<br /><br />People throughout time have created institutions to protect them and better serve their goals or needs. Then over time due to members' greed, ego and need of feeling like they've cheated death by making a lasting mark, the people end up protecting and serving the institution.<br /><br />Institutions that are primarily by one sex are especially vulnerable. See sports institutions, the Catholic church, state and federal gov't to name just a few. They both can justify the abuse of members and cover it up to "protect the institution" and their own pocketbooks. Funny how Barry's dalliances at the lake house don't come up much in WI.<br /><br />So my point is, a lesson on the life cycle of institutions, an honest history lesson of them and the people who have led them would be a great undertaking. Joe Pa lived a pretty good life in whole. He got sucked into the same institutional vortex that has captured much lesser people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-54837482287494692212012-07-26T08:24:25.485-05:002012-07-26T08:24:25.485-05:00As usual, we concur....As usual, we concur....Tim Morrisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457723301178870851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-4734439817989900912012-07-26T08:23:52.959-05:002012-07-26T08:23:52.959-05:00My pleasure, Gary - and the comment from my friend...My pleasure, Gary - and the comment from my friend Mr. Knickerbocker, below, mirrors my sentiments.Tim Morrisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457723301178870851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-17865997518979883232012-07-25T19:41:46.455-05:002012-07-25T19:41:46.455-05:00Garyjay ... 50 years would be safe, but not fair t...Garyjay ... 50 years would be safe, but not fair to the honoree's contemporaries. I've advocated that public assets may be named only for persons who have been dead a minimum of 14 years and have no legacy of sealed papers.<br /><br />I chose 14 years because nobody who is less than 14 years older than me seems old. It's my own guideline.<br /><br />Here on the eastern edge of civilization we have a ferry boat named after a local political schnook. Nothing to be done about it, but, poetically, the boat has proven to be a lemon.<br /><br />Agreed on the tendency to confer half-staff honors. The lack of standards diminishes the value. Same goes for calling everyone who acquits himself or herself honorably a hero.Hieronymous Knickerbockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17595084830114588686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-89971684544529691692012-07-25T10:22:31.634-05:002012-07-25T10:22:31.634-05:00This is something for the future...if they continu...This is something for the future...if they continue to uncover the sins of the Big 10-12...more statues will probably fall..this will make available a number of "shells" if you will that could be Photoshopped and retrofitted for a truly deserving dead person..dead for at least fifty years to preclude the chance of a discovery that the person was not as righteous as thought...hopefully this does not happen, but in our age of enlightenment nothing seems to miss disclosure if scratched at often enough and by the right sources....I too am in disagreement as to the honoring of Barry and Pat and not Donna...but NCAA Football continues to be weird..Bobby Bowden now the winning est coach?...onto another subject that I find disconcerting.....the rush by the politicians to fly our National Flag at half staff..granted the Batman Theater event is tragic, but I truly believe we need to re-evaluate this tribute...it should remain for those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the Nation or the death of a President or former President...other than that it should not be used as a tool for political gain....it is too high of an honor, which I feel has been diminished somewhat by its recent and all too often occurrence....Tim...thanks for letting me use your blog...I feel better now!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11269885092397479159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-29398683473129974352012-07-25T08:02:48.629-05:002012-07-25T08:02:48.629-05:00Ha! Had forgotten the Vang Pao flap! Good point....Ha! Had forgotten the Vang Pao flap! Good point.Tim Morrisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457723301178870851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-20763755701688880212012-07-25T07:53:45.841-05:002012-07-25T07:53:45.841-05:00Erecting a statue of someone who is still living i...Erecting a statue of someone who is still living is as risky as naming a school for someone who is still living (remember the flap over General Vang Pao?).Ordinary Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05967266466238236424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-4920937172197122012012-07-24T15:56:17.966-05:002012-07-24T15:56:17.966-05:00Dan, I think in a court of law both prosecution an...Dan, I think in a court of law both prosecution and defense could stipulate to the existence of a "protect the football program" culture.....<br /><br />I concur with your analysis of what the Sandusky flap was/is about.Tim Morrisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457723301178870851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-84904666727604779892012-07-24T15:53:57.483-05:002012-07-24T15:53:57.483-05:00!!!!!! Agreed.!!!!!! Agreed.Tim Morrisseyhttp://timmorrissey.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-7280329328727253472012-07-24T15:26:50.516-05:002012-07-24T15:26:50.516-05:00haha jason good comment.
Eventually a lot of skel...haha jason good comment.<br /><br />Eventually a lot of skeletons are going to come tumbling out of a lot of NCAA school's closets. L'affaire Sandusky wasn't really about what Sandusky did, it was about the culture of protecting the football program above all else.<br /><br />No major college football university with the possible exception of Northwestern is immune to this. I have a feeling that here in Madison, what will eventually come out will make Chadima and the AD's bacchanalian bash and $60 a head steak dinner during the last Rose Bowl look like my daughters sixth birthday party.<br /><br />Nothing along the lines of child molesting, mind you, but the same culture as Penn State will be shown to exist.Dan from Madisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542769119893347529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-573188106264061392.post-89420406233184405112012-07-24T15:00:00.342-05:002012-07-24T15:00:00.342-05:00Defenders of the Richter and Alvarez statues quick...Defenders of the Richter and Alvarez statues quickly point out that they were paid for by private funds. My response to that is that both of those guys should have known better and strongly suggested that the money would be better spent on an endowed scholarship or even a top-shelf blocking sled. Who says, "Oh, you want to commission a statue of me? Good idea!"jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06826068886546004899noreply@blogger.com